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Hi Simong_
Either wire a monetary push switch to one on the coin switches probably best to use the quarter switch, so when pressed it will give 6 credits which will allow 3 selections to be made.
Or you could register credits using the coin switch then disable the subtract credit solenoid so it will always stay in credit.
Hope this helps.
Scudie
It’s good to hear that it’s now working as well as it looks, it’s a shame that it didn’t quite fit inside but I think it still looks great.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Michael
It certainly looks the part with your diner booth set up. It’s good to hear that it all went to plan & that your happy with the end result, now you can either sit back and enjoy the music or start planning your next project.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Andrea
I read your question about the use o f a Seeburg W4 -L56 wallbox, sorry but I have no experience with this model type, I see that Randy has already responded to your post he has a greater knowledge of the earlier type wallbox’s than I.
The only thing I can sugest is that you email Fabien & Gaëlle at contact@wallbox2mp3.com & ask them directly.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Randy
Yes I read your e mail, I have a problem with e mail at the moment, I can receive them but can’t send at present.
Noticed the problem on Saturday BT are looking into the fault presently will be in touch once it’s been resolved.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Joe
Personaly I would have thought if it was due to the affects of magnetism or any other interference that was caused by part of the DEC that the staccato type sound would only occur when a selection is being made. Or if due to the AC transformer that powers your DEC that it would be more or less constant.
As far as I am aware your v1.5 does not require any signal from the DEC if the SD is configured for random, just the 5 volt DC so by trying it in random play you would be able to rule out any interference / magnetism from the DEC & the AC transformer as there would be no requirement to have them powered up.
I would think it would be fairly easy to alter the config file on the Sd card, there should be no nead to re do the whole thing.
I think if you were to change C0s07 to C4s07 that should do the trick. It can always be changed back later.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Randy
Us Brits have pool here generally played on a 3ft x 6 ft table and also billiards played on a 6ft x12ft table I think with just 3 balls never played billiards my self, then there is Snooker also played on the larger table.
I seem to remember going into a working men’s club when I was 16 or 17 and there being a pool table that was may be 4×8 or 5×10 was told it was an American size table, but I was young and naive and would have believed most things then, only ever saw that one. What size are pool tables in the states?
Hi Joe
Have just read your post, sorry I can’t offer any advice as I have had no experience with any of the Seeburg DEC wallbox’s.
I would do as Randy has already suggested and configure an sd card for constant random selections, just to see if it stops binary noise you are experiencing.
Cheers Scudie
Morning Richbooth
The only time that I bought something off of Bill and they didn’t fit was when I ordered a set of title page springs for a 200 select Wurlitzer, when I emailed him he refunded the price of the springs & told me to keep them.
Sometimes he can come over as a bit abrupt, may be just pot luck how you catch him.
I was told that he has been involved with jukebox parts since God was a lad! & that at one time he travelled all over the states buying both used machines & new old stock.
Has he got the correct part for your WRA?
Pleased to hear that the 10 to 14 also worked.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Richbooth
I believe most WRA’s had the rear section painted brown from the factory, mine certainly was, although when I converted it I chose to paint the rear section black, as it was my preference & I had some gloss black spay paint. I have also seen them finished in white as I believe a chain of diners in th U.S had ordered them in white as part of there corporate image .
However my comment in the previous post about the cover being badly painted brown, was infact in reference to the first Seeburg SC1 I picked up, underneath the awful brown paint was what had once been either a copper or gold coloured cover, I am sure it had never been a chrome finish, so had assumed the cover was either an SC2 or an SC4 as I believe the SC3 to be the brown and back enamelled model.
Sorry to hear that your credit unit didn’t fit, have you managed to find a replacement?
If not I have used a guy in California a few times when I required spares.
Bill Butterfield
His business is called Musical Fun For Everyone he has been very helpful in the past.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Richbooth
Just as a matter of interest did you try jumping 10 & 14 ?
if you didn’t would you mind trying it just to satisfy my curiosity ?
Had a bit of a look through a box of Seeburg spares tonight to see if the WRA credit unit had been stored with them, I am guessing that my pal who bought the WRA off of me took the credit unit also.
Are you going to wall mount the WRA ? Or sit it on a worktop or shelf?
I had guessed that was the case regarding the extra 40 selections, have not personally had an SC2 although I did have a SC1 with what I think was an SC2 cover fitted, this had been very badly painted a nasty shade of brown.
Glad we were able to help a little with your WRA👍
Cheers Scudie
Just wondering
When looking at the colours of the wires on the credit unit plug in the manual it has 10 as being Pink and 13 as Green 14 White & Yellow, strange that yours are Black & Orange.
On a different note could you possibly explain how you managed to get 200 selections out of a Seeburg SC 2 👍
Cheers Scudie
Hi Richbooth
If you had been in Europe I would have offered you the credit unit for the price of the postage If I can find it ! but as your on the other side of the pond you will probably find it cheaper to source one locally, as in my experience shipping from the states to England is eye watering.
Should you decide to leave it in free play and want the pricing indicator lamps iluminated in the top of the machine try jumping 6 to 1&2.
Did you see this in the manual?
Cheers Scudie
Morning Richbooth
Are those 10 & 14?
I didn’t take any reference of the colours of the wires, does it work?
Nottinghamshire England.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Richbooth
Did you find the manual for the WRA/ B/C in the support section of this site ?
I am positive that it’s there as I have just taken a look, now this is only a suggestion that you may wish to check out before trying it out !
I think from looking in the manual that if I was you firstly I would check terminals 10 & 14 of the credit unit plug to see if either of them are live, I don’t think they will be but I could be wrong if neither of them are live try putting a wire from terminal 10 to 14 according to the manual they are numbered 1- 14 left to right on the plug.
If correct the wiper arm behind the letter and number keys should advance from the home position to the credit position, where you should then be able to press in one letter and one number. The wiper will then revolve once and should stop again at the credit position.
Again please check the wiring diagram in the manual before jumping any wires.
By the way where in the world are you ?
Cheers Scudie
Hello Richbooth
The WRA can be made to work without the credit unit, I did one a couple of years ago and removed the credit unit to make space for a AC transformer. The WRA worked fine with the emulator without the credit unit.
I know that to make the WRA free play as Randy says it was just a matter of fitting a jumper wire between two of the terminals on the credit unit connector off the top of my head I can’t remember which ones. A pal of mine had the WRA off of me & I am not sure if I still have the credit unit or not, would have to have a look.
I would have thought by looking at that picture of the credit unit and the wiring diagram it should be possible to work it out which wires to jump.
Cheers Scudie
I think for now I will leave it on coin operation, when I have the extension piece finished and secured to the back of the wallbox I am going to check the feasibility/ possibility of wall mounting the whole unit, (I have been advised that it may stand to far from the wall) & depending on how easy or difficult it is to then remove the front cover to empty the coin box will determine if I go free play with it or not.
Still it’s a challenge !
Cheers Scudie
Hi Randy
The mechanism that establishes & subtracts credits on the 5250 & 5210 are mechanical and from what I can see in the manual entirely different to that in the later 5220.
Just before the coin fully leaves the slug rejector it drops onto a metal plate, this is on a fulcrum so as the weight of the coin presses down on one end the other end triggers the single coin switch which puts the machine into the credit position, when a selection is made the mechanism moves the plate that the coin is sat on, before the coin falls into the box the mechanism turns a sprung loaded wheel that is then held in place by a ratchet mechanism the amount the wheel is turned is dependant on the value of the coin, the higher the value of the coin the further the wheel is turned, this wheel and its associated mechanism hold the coin switch in its closed position, further selections cause the wheel to return as the ratchet allows until it returns to its home position and the single coin switch is allowed to close.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Randy
Yes it has a service switch but if remember correctly it just turns off the unit.
I can put it into constant freeplay but that was not my aim.
My initial intention was 1 press of the switch to give 5 plays.
Scudie
Hi Folks
The main reason that I have left the Wurlitzer 5250 working on coins as it was intended to be, is because I could not figure out a way of getting several selections for one press of a coin switch.
I had initially considered mounting a small momentary push switch behind a coin in the coin aperture as I have done on my 3W1, but due to the design characteristics of the 5250 which uses a credit system that mechanically uses the size and weight of the coin that has been deposited to actuate the credit unit accordingly.
Actuating the single electrical coin switch without a coin sitting on the mechanism that’s directly under the slug rejector achieves just one credit.
So unless anyone can suggest a way to replicate the depositing of a coin that will actuate the credit unit and achieve multiple credits I will leave it on coins.
Cheers Happy New Year
Paul
