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That was sequence of my 5250 pages, but have now swapped them to A1 B1 C1 D1 E1 etc, which is the same as my 5210.
I am guessing that they changed the way the pages were numbered sometime in the late 50’s
My 5250 accepts pre decimal English currency, but sometime in the past one of the posts that are screwed into the credit unit disc has been removed, the problem I have is I don’t know the dimensions of it to fabricate a new one, to complicate things further the posts were originally different colours for identification purposes but due to corrosion mine now all look pretty much the same colour, so I am unsure which post is missing. It would be a great help if you could measure the four posts on your box ( from the surface of the disc to its tip ) so I can work out which one of mine is missing and fabricate one.
Cheers Paul
Ok so I have eventually got around to getting a Seeburg SC back on my desk, fitted 3 of the cool white led’s into the sockets all three lit up, however after an hour or so one started to flash over a period of time all three did the same then failed to iluminate at all. After checking the voltages I found that the supply voltage to the three lamps was indeed in excess of the limits specified by the supplier.
Am not exactly sure how I got this wrong, any how I have now fitted an extra resistor to each of the lamp sockets wiring tried 1000 ohms but this dimmed the led’s so tried 550 ohms this does not dim them and they have been on for a total of 24 hours now.
Good Evening
I certainly think it’s a software issue, I remember it taking me a while to get it to work by using an Sd card configured for a Rockola 1555. I thought it was only me having problems with a 5250.
I assume that if you use the software to configure an SD card for the 5250 that you had the same problem as me ? Ie no selections for T, U, or V, because it plays D1 when A1 is selected.
By using the Seeburg configuration & offsetting the files by 10, does that allow you to keep the pages of the 5250 numbered as it left the factory?
good to hear you resolved the issue.
What coins does your 5250 accept ?
Cheers Scudie
Good Morning Karel
Was the sticking leaf switch located on the APU 10 credit unit ?
got any photos of your box?
Glad that to hear that it’s now workin correctly.
Scudie
Just sat here thinking about it , & fairly sure that if you bridge terminals # 1 (ground) top left as you look at the front of the socket to #11 lower middle the album light should illuminate.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Karel
Glad to hear that you are making progress.
The leaf switch you mention is this part of the credit unit?
If you want the album light to come on you can achieve this by connecting two of the wires together on the 12 pin credit unit socket , without looking at the wiring diagram I can’t remember which.
If your interested let me know, and I will take a look.
Cheers Scudie
Hello Karel
I had wondered if A1 -A8 might be playing the wrong tracks rather than nothing at all.
If you have a copy of the manual all well & good, if not & If you have not allready found it there is a bunch of manuals, under the support section on here, I think the first SC manual on the list has missing pages! Fortunately there is a complete SC manual, its part of the Seeburg combo which covers several different models.
Any questions just ask, chances are one of us will have a suggestion if not the answer.
Let us know how you get on with it.
Cheers Scudie
Hello Karel
So selections A1 through to V1 play no tracks, do the selections B1 onwards play the correct tracks When compared with the list?
Have you checked the position of the wiper arm as described in the manual ?
Also check the contact faces of the latch bar setting switch for cleanliness & that they are opening and closing to the specs in the manual.
Are you using the credit unit ( APU 10 ) if so clean the contact surfaces on this.
Also check that nobody has moved the wires from singles to albums on the boards adjacent to the terminal strip.
If you have already done the above.
If B1 on plays the correct tracks, with the power switched off & the machine in the credit position , select A1 with a multimeter set to continuity conect one probe to the chassis of the machine then with the other probe to number 1 contact it should have continuity & 2 to 8 not (my meter gives an audio signal) from memory the wiper arm travels clockwise after leaving the credit position, over contacts 1-8 then over v through to A As A1 is selected all the letters should have continuity to ground (chassis) if you have no continuity on 1 check the reverse side of the board for a broken wire.
Let us know how you get on!
Cheers Scudie
Hi Gaëlle
Personally I have had no problems with SD cards, however I remember some one saying that the micro sd cards for phones when used with an adapter were not reliable.
Cheers Scudie
Hi MIC
Since posting my first reply to your question I have been able to source a manual for the 5220, which has now been added to the support section here on this site.
After looking at the manual it is obvious to me that I had assumed incorrectly & that the credit unit is not the same as a 5250, however it would appear that if you were to to fit a simple switch across the Key switch that is shown in the manual, & is labelled on the photos of the play rack. Wurlitzer call the credit unit a play rack.
Cheers Scudie
Bonjour Mic
Unfortunately my French is very poor, so you will have to translate this.
I have had no experience with the 5220 wallbox, & this is purely a guess.
On the 5210 &5250 the credit units are situated in the lower right corner and are predominantly a mechanical system that operates a small electrical switch.
The credit unit either opens or closes the contacts of the switch when there are credits available. To give free plays the switch could be bypassed so the action of the credit unit has no affect on the switch. As I said this is purely based on my guess that Wurliter carried on using a similar credit system on the 5220.
Do you have a Manual for the 5220?
Unfortunately there isn’t one on the Support section of this site.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Steve
Yes the mod to the volume control resistor board is the same, the colours of the wires differ compared to an SC.
They also did away with the audio relay that is fitted adjacent to the volume control resistors on the SC 1-4.
It is my understanding that by routing the audio through the credit unit they stopped customers sitting in the bar / diner listening to other customers selections unless they had them selves already deposited money and had a credit on there consolette. After all they were there to take money!
On another note if the diner had say for round figures 10 consolettes & 50 % of the customers were selecting records that were current say out of the top ten, chances are that several of the customers would choose the same track, now as far as I am aware once the phono (jukebox) has registered a song to its memory it can’t remember it more than once, so it plays the song all the customers are happy because they heard there selection. The customer would be blissfully unaware that potentially all 5 of them coul have paid to listen to that specific record !
Cheers Scudie
Hi Sooner
Unfortunately not, had a SCH a while ago, I figured the first 12 are the same as an SC.
13 to 15 are audio.
Cheers Scudie
Hi Skreien
Yes it can be made to work without the credit unit being fitted.
The plug of the credit unit plugs into a 15 pin socket lower right of the consolette.
As you look at the front of the socket the top left hole we will call 1 if you put a wire from 1 to 7 that will put the machine into a constant credit position giving you free play.
Hope this helps Cheers Scudie
Just had an email from the LED people they tell me that they are OK for A/C power supply’s .
Cheers Scudie
When I saw the led’s I wondered how the anode & cathode were identified, as they don’t have the unequal pair of legs like normal led’s
In fact they look very similar to a #501 automotive lamp, so I emailed the company and asked, they assured me that they were bi polarity. As to weather they can be used for AC voltages or not I did not ask. I suppose I should have.
I will fire off an email to them, hopefully they will have been delivered by the time I get home.
Hi Stingman
I can’t remember anyone having the emulator crash when the volume is turned up, does it happen as the volume pot is adjusted or a white afterwards?
Are you using the volume control on the board or the extension kit?
As to the emulator not responding to your selections, which emulator do you have?
What make /model wallbox is it connected to?
What type of sd card are you using standard size or micro?
Is the sd configured for any random selections at all?
Is it always the same selections that fail to play?
Cheers Scudie
