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Hey Scudie,
Glad to hear you’re making progress! I haven’t had much time to putz with mine. One of these days I’ll have a night free and give ya’ll an update. Good luck!
Was super excited, set the wallbox2mp3 to read the 3wa as a Rock-ola 1555. All 200 selections worked, so I printed strips and put them in and mounted it to the wall. Of course I didn’t quite test it as thoroughly as I should have. If I put it on shuffle, a random songs will play just like it should, but none of my selections will play. If I take it off of shuffle, it plays my selection, but I don’t think it stacks my selections. If I wait for the current selection to finish and then make my next selection it will work. So I’ll need to keep trying other models on the wallbox2mp3. I’m also going to check that a rogue pulse isn’t being sent when I put a credit or something. I don’t know how long the wallbox2mp3 blocks out or cancels it’s recording of a pulse. One would think if it doesn’t receive 3 or more pulses within something like 2 seconds it would disregard the signal.
I took my wallbox to a jukebox repair shop, and they said it appears it’s working like it should, so thinking the problem is me or somewhere in between. I’ll keep ya’ll posted!
Hi gaelle! (And scudie!)
I just got a day off of work today, so you’ll get an email tomorrow on how it’s all working. I’m in the process of mounting it to the wall right now and then I’ll give the sel files a go! Thanks gang!
The latch bar on the right of the buttons does the releasing. Lift up and the buttons should pop up. The process of adjusting the release of the buttons is in the manual. Not that difficult to do if it keeps hanging up. Also, u got a great wallbox there!
Got an update! I selected an AMI 200 selection wallbox on wallbox2mp3 and it looks like we’re good to go! Still working on contact #10 sending a pulse, so I’m still trying to clean and find a way to see in there 😀. Otherwise I’ll tape over that contact and only put one hit wonders on A9-V9 until I get it sorted out!
Yeah, I tried swapping SD card manufacturers and there’s no change on the stutters. Last night I actually tried the three wurlizter 200 selection models for the conf. file. It worked, but I think the pulse pattern is different, as by the time I got to like V no songs played. So I’m going to try taping off that first contact by the letters and see if that works. I’m glad at least the 3w160 works, but still bummed. I signed up for the v 2.0 swap, so hopefully that’s on the horizon soon. I sent an email to Gaelle and Fabien, so waiting to hear back if they have a solution or idea.
I haven’t had any issues with shuffle (other than stuttering which happens to shuffled or selected songs). Honestly I use the wallbox2mp3 mostly for the shuffle feature. I turn on a switch and just let the music play. I might try having multiple same name files and see if it randomly selects various ones when it’s just randomly playing. I’ll keep you posted with any updates!
Thanks Scudie! It at least feels good I can use 80% of the selections. Hoping maybe there’s a firmware update I can do with the wallbox2mp3 to maybe resolve the two/three issues (one is songs randomly judder/studder, the second is I hear a short burst of a song [<2 seconds long] and then the selection starts, and lastly the 3wa configuration file doesn’t seem to work). Wish I had a control to compare against. Your help, feedback and replies have been the highlight to this project Scudie. Thank you!
Good news with a head scratcher! If I build a playlist as a 3w160 (s02), it works perfectly for the 160 selections. If I build it as the 3wa (s03) I get the problem of the 10th selection being played for every letter (even with the 10th contact being covered with electrical tape so it cannot send a pulse). Is there a component in the wallbox that could have been switched out converting it to a sw160? I have all the pricing pegs set to singles, the selector plate looks correct (10 total contacts for the number portion and the correct number of contacts for the letters). SD card formats fine and in the root directory (no other files present other the current build .configuration file and songs…
Okay, I put black electrical tape over the #10 contact, thinking that would at least temporarily resolve my problem, but nope. B1 through B9 is still all the same song…. I guess I don’t understand how the wallbox2mp3 is designed to interpret the signals. I was thinking it was just a dumb pulse it counts, but maybe there’s other variables I’m not considering, despite that the test light seems to be lighting appropriately.
Okay, two steps forward, one step back! It looks like the #10 contact is sending a signal. If I press b1, I get the 3 pulses, then the first number contact sends a pulse, then nothing for contacts 2-9, then on contact 10 it sends a signal. So b2, I get the 3 pulses for the letters (like studies post B,A,~), the first two contacts for numbers and then a pulse for contact #10. Here are the videos for b1 and b10 in slo-mo. The video for b1 shows the light for #10, it’s dim, but there.
B10
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GAew5tTyOg6ttcAtI-dYLNp4gVxoTFyD/view?usp=drivesdk
B1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GAew5tTyOg6ttcAtI-dYLNp4gVxoTFyD/view?usp=drivesdk
I pulled off the selector plate and tried to trace the wire. Its so hard to see the mechanism for the “0” push button. I haven’t found any frays in the wire causing it, so it’s gotta be somewhere in that sliding mechanism. When I pulled off the selector plate I must’ve pulled a wire off the selector plate, it’s got a black wrap around it, looks like it shares a solder point with a brown wire, so I have to double check that’s where it goes.
<b>If </b>I’m understanding it right, the wallbox2mp3 software must time gaps between signals, so after the first pulse it assumes nothing but when the 10th contact sends a signal, it just calculates that should be the 10th selection and it just never got pulses for 2-9. When I find where the wire goes, I might cut the contact for #10 just to test my theory. 🤔
Thanks for the reply Scudie, I’ll give it a look this weekend. I know, its been awhile. Trust me though, when it’s done I’ll post. I hate threads where someone has a problem and they don’t post the solution/resolution!
I’ll need to learn to read schematics properly and thoroughly at some point in my life. Maybe then the logic of it all would make sense. I sort of assumed the credit unit handles credits, the buttons handle the selections and the selector plate handles the signal.
I’ll keep ya posted!
Also, I plan on still making the light series to check the pulses, just thought it’s interesting the consistency of the selection error I’m getting.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Okay, update time! I sent my wallbox to Doug at Jukebox Heaven Antiques and he solved problems #1 and #3. It was a loose wire and intermittent connection causing my problem. Now all that’s left for me to get resolved is getting the right selection to play. So what’s happening is pressing A1, A2, A3, etc plays A10 every time. Selecting B1, B2, B3, etc plays B10 everytime. Does this pattern for all the letters so its like I only have 20 songs. The letters and numbers seem to latch and release just like the manual states. Selector plate contacts look clean. I’m guessing the issue lies somewhere in the number latchbar mechanism. Any tips or tricks on what to look at or clean? I’m optimistically figuring it’s just one short to fix since it’s the same is due across all the letters.</p>
Okay, I think its something with the credit cancel switch bank i think. I was jumping leafs and got it to trigger like its supposed to, but I blew the fuse by accident before I could narrow down the issue. The 3 amp mini screw in fuse in not available anywhere locally, so I just rigged up my own temporary fuse. Fingers crossed I can get this figured out tonight.
Yeah, i have the wiper arm in the correct position. I used a voltmeter at the motor starting switches itself to make sure they are closed, so next I’ll be tracing the wires and checking further down the line. This just seems odd, because i dont think the credit cancel switch bank is wrong.
Here’s a link to the video if it helps. I’m going to be ordering one of those dentists mirrors to check it while cycling.
I must be missing something dumb and obvious. It just seems like it if the credit cancel switches are in the same position, minus different gap distances, when in stand by vs. Credit positions and the carryover swithes are apen in the credit position, but if if i manually put the carryover switches in the standby position (with V being closed) it will work. Shouldn’t the wallbox cycle in the credit position once both the motor starting switches are closed, not if V is closed?
