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11 February 2019 at 19 h 02 min #44059
Styrofoam17
ParticipantHello,
I have a Seeburg DEC wallbox and I bought the DEC2MP3 kit 2-3 years ago. I have received no support or help with installing this kit. I have tried over the years using this forum, but it is usually just filled with spam. If anyone has this kit installed or can help it would be really appreciated. I’m tired of watching it collect dust
thanks.
Hirr
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13 February 2019 at 0 h 47 min #44060
Klaatu
KeymasterHello,
I don’t know the DEC Wallbox, but could try to help you. What is your problem ? Please explain.
I have installed Wallbox2MP3 or PACKARD2MP3. So maybe I try to solve your problem… if this is just installation problem.
What have you done so far ?
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13 February 2019 at 17 h 07 min #44105
Styrofoam17
ParticipantWhoa, someone responded!
I have no clue how to start…
How do I shove all that into here?
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13 February 2019 at 17 h 14 min #44110
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI have removed the middle panel
Do all these wires stay? the instructions doesn’t show any of them?
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14 February 2019 at 0 h 00 min #44132
Klaatu
KeymasterIf you want to hide everything inside, you’ll have to remove the coin mech.
And find a way to put it in Free play or adding a switch that will simulate a coin by actioning the latche.
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14 February 2019 at 0 h 06 min #44133
Klaatu
KeymasterLeave all the existing wires.
FISRT : plug your transformer to BLK and WHT on the middle strip in the middle
See : http://www.wallbox2mp3.com/soft/user_manual_seeburg_dec_dec2mp3_en.pdf
And check if the Consolette is working.
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14 February 2019 at 0 h 10 min #44134
Klaatu
KeymasterCan’t see on your photo the “DEC2MP3 Translator” do you have it ?
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14 February 2019 at 18 h 33 min #44187
Styrofoam17
ParticipantYes I have it
and thank you for taking the time.
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14 February 2019 at 20 h 54 min #44192
Klaatu
KeymasterNo problem, I like to help when I can.
So now you need to find GROUND wire on your transformer. Should be labeled on transfo or box.
Plug it to BLK, should be first on top of terminal board.
Second wire from transfo to WHT on terminal board.Now check if consolette is working.
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14 February 2019 at 21 h 03 min #44193
Klaatu
KeymasterLooks like you have everything to complete this project if consolette is working.
You even have the colored wires that goes between “terminal board” and “DEC2MP3 Translator”.
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14 February 2019 at 21 h 17 min #44195
Klaatu
KeymasterDon’t know your skills, so tell me how to help you then.
Follow color scheme of PDF files and your good.
For speakers, connect them directly to wallbox2mp3 card, unless you have the wiring scheme of the DEC consolette to check where to plug it to able to use front buttons.
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14 February 2019 at 21 h 26 min #44196
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI wont be able to work on this until the weekend because of Valentines day.
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14 February 2019 at 21 h 27 min #44197
Styrofoam17
ParticipantDiscord: Styrofoam04#9226
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14 February 2019 at 21 h 36 min #44198
Klaatu
KeymasterDon’t know what is Discord, I’m “old school”
Let’s continue here, it could help futures users.
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14 February 2019 at 21 h 49 min #44199
Styrofoam17
ParticipantNo problem.
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15 February 2019 at 0 h 54 min #44202
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI connected the Black and white to the cord. on the other end of the Transformer i have a yellow and blue wire? Do i have the right transformer? (Canada 120V)
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15 February 2019 at 0 h 59 min #44203
Styrofoam17
ParticipantHere’s a close up of the Terminal board… There alot of stuff connected to it. do i keep them or remove them? I would love all the buttons and selection to work.
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15 February 2019 at 2 h 12 min #44208
Klaatu
KeymasterFrom what I can see on transfo scheme :
BLK & WHT are for 120v
Blue for 24v –> WHT terminal 24VAC
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15 February 2019 at 2 h 15 min #44209
Klaatu
KeymasterDo not remove any original wires. Just add the new for both cards to communicate.
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15 February 2019 at 2 h 17 min #44210
Klaatu
KeymasterIf there is no trouble with the wallbox, all buttons should works for selections.
But for sounds, you’ll have to find a scheme or trace wire to find where it goes…
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15 February 2019 at 16 h 13 min #44242
Styrofoam17
Participanthttp://www.wallbox2mp3.com/soft/Seeburg_dec110_DEC125_parts_catalog.pdf
Does this help with the sound wiring guide?
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15 February 2019 at 17 h 05 min #44243
Klaatu
KeymasterWiring isn’t clearly detailed, but maybe we can find an idea with page 13 and “volume control assembly”.
But 1st you need to power the wallbox, check if it works. Them put the 2 boards and use direct speakers, and then we’ll try to find for volume buttons.
Main problem is getting two different ground for speakers to use with the wallbox2mp3.Take photos of what you’ve done and observe
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16 February 2019 at 4 h 01 min #44254
Styrofoam17
ParticipantSo i plugged everything in
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16 February 2019 at 4 h 09 min #44255
Styrofoam17
ParticipantNothing works!
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16 February 2019 at 4 h 12 min #44256
Styrofoam17
ParticipantThe dec2mp3 stuff lights up.
But i get nothing from the box itself
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16 February 2019 at 15 h 26 min #44288
Klaatu
KeymasterWhen you only powered the DEC wallbox with 24v, did you insert and coin and see any reaction ?
You first need to be sure your DEC wallbox is working.Looks like you did (because adapter show a bright led) but I need to ask a dumb question. Did you strip each end of the wires ? I’m asking that because I discovered some people don’t know. At “light store”, I had to explain it to a customer…
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16 February 2019 at 15 h 39 min #44291
Klaatu
KeymasterDid you build the SD card using the software ?
Does the red light from DEC2MP3 flashes or stay on ?
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16 February 2019 at 18 h 22 min #44302
Styrofoam17
ParticipantDuh! I did not put a quarter in it!! I bought a Volt meter and everything…
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16 February 2019 at 18 h 23 min #44303
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI thought there would be more lights? Now how do i get the sound to work?
I made a half list of songs..its alot of work.
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16 February 2019 at 18 h 42 min #44306
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16 February 2019 at 18 h 56 min #44308
Klaatu
KeymasterForgot to mention : Put a coin, and select a song if you want to hear something hahahahahah
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16 February 2019 at 20 h 19 min #44310
Styrofoam17
ParticipantIm getting the 2 flashes on the DEC2MP3
its not reading my sd card. im using a micro SD in a adapter
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16 February 2019 at 20 h 29 min #44313
Klaatu
KeymasterMaybe a formatting problem, is FAT32 or NTFS ?
Try the other.
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16 February 2019 at 20 h 35 min #44314
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI tried that and nothing. I put in a regular SD HD cad and it plays music. But only the random music. it wont take any selections.
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16 February 2019 at 20 h 48 min #44315
Klaatu
KeymasterNothing happens if you put coin and make a selection ?
No song ?
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16 February 2019 at 20 h 50 min #44316
Klaatu
KeymasterIf it’s easier for you, I have created a Facebook group : https://www.facebook.com/groups/2283993401928099/
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17 February 2019 at 0 h 02 min #44339
Styrofoam17
ParticipantNVM, the buttons are finicky you have to press them slowly. I was getting really frustrated. i have Elvis Hound Dog as 100 and i couldn’t get it to play. instead it was playing random songs. So i had to turn that off. C0s07.cnf
That way when i failed at the button nothing played. once i figured it out It worked!
Thanks for all your help
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17 February 2019 at 0 h 06 min #44341
Klaatu
KeymasterSo, now selections work fine ?
Maybe some cleaner contact.
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17 February 2019 at 0 h 09 min #44344
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI edit my post post ^^
Cleaner contact?
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17 February 2019 at 0 h 11 min #44345
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI also Connected the Jack to my sound system and it plays Beautifully. Next I want to connect the speakers on the box and figure out how to hide the transformer.
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17 February 2019 at 3 h 05 min #44354
Klaatu
KeymasterDon’t know how is made the keyboard on the Seeburg DEC, but maybe you cloud use some spray “contact cleaner for board”. Send a photo front and especially back of keyboard.
Or just use alcohol and Q-tip if you can access the contact. This maybe would ease button selections.
So now SD card is configured correctly and selected songs are played ?
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19 February 2019 at 15 h 53 min #44675
Styrofoam17
ParticipantYou are right about the contacts. After pushing them a few times they are getting better. As for the SD card it is a slow process. I don’t know who owned this box before me but I am trying to keep the same songs as its like a time capsule. So finding and tagging these songs is getting really difficult. out of the 160 songs I’m on song 63.
For the sound. I think I will directly connect them. The volume control is only 2 buttons loud and soft. I am using A/C wire to connect the DEC2MP3 to the board. its (3) 18 gauge wires in 1, but if I buy 7 Conductor Thermostat Wire, also 18-Gauge. I can mount the DEC2MP3 close to my Sound system Receiver and mount the wallbox somewhere else.
But some how have to hide the transformer and I also need to secure the wires from accidently be ripped out of the back of the Wallbox.
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19 February 2019 at 21 h 49 min #44728
Klaatu
KeymasterI had though of doing a time capsule, but all songs were unbearable !
It’s up to you to decide to use internal speakers or your sound system receiver.
I would use the internal speakers, more fun.If you manage to put the wallbox in freeplay, you could remove the coin mech and see if your transformer can fit in the new room inside.
If you have working lights, try it ! Or use a voltmeter and check what you get. Would be worth to making everything in order.
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19 February 2019 at 18 h 56 min #44704
Styrofoam17
ParticipantAlso I’m missing some lights. The select song light doesn’t work and the lights over the carousel. would it be worth it to try to replace these or just leave it as is.
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20 February 2019 at 15 h 32 min #44890
Styrofoam17
ParticipantSome of the song will have to go but not many.
I have no clue how to put it in free play.
I will give the speakers a try, but I’ll connect them directly to the DEC2Mp3
what does the reject button on the Dec2MP3 do?
As for the lights I want to do it but I just got it working and I’m afraid I might mess it up.
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21 February 2019 at 0 h 54 min #44953
Klaatu
KeymasterReject button is to stop a song playing. Like you would reject a record on a jukebox, to end it earlier.
Can you use a voltmeter ? Remove bulb, and check on each pin what reading you got.
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21 February 2019 at 22 h 13 min #45943
Scudie
ParticipantYou can also add an external reject button by using a (make on press) momentary switch and connecting the two wires from the switch terminals to the relevant terminal block on the board. Doing this you can cancel a selection when the front cover is in place .
I if possible fit the switch under the coin reject button so the switch is actuated by the action of the coin reject mechanism.
Most voltmeter’s have both an AC & DC range so it’s important to have the voltmeter set correctly ie AC with a 20 volt limit.
Cheers Scudie
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22 February 2019 at 4 h 41 min #45947
Styrofoam17
ParticipantOh Wow!? another real person! Hi Scudie
Cool i was afraid to press the big red “reject” button.
The Volt Meter I bought has an auto-ranging meter. one less thing i wanted to worry aboot
Are the bulbs easy to buy/find? how much work is it to get to these bulbs? Is it worth it?
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22 February 2019 at 4 h 44 min #45948
Styrofoam17
ParticipantI was also wondering if i could connect to my Bluetooth speakers ?
something like this:
or something better? Have either of you done this?
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22 February 2019 at 15 h 14 min #45949
Scudie
ParticipantGood morning
I have connected to Bluetooth speakers using a Bluetooth transmitter, I fit an extension cable into the jack plug socket on the board. Then the transmitter can be plugged into the extension with the cover closed. If you have the DEC’s speakers wired to the wb2mp3 board you will get an echo effect because of a slight delay on the Bluetooth.
Regarding bulbs the bulbs I do not have a DEC unit. Sometimes the bulbs have information stamped on the bayonet section ie voltage & wattage ratings, but some have a gec # which you can sometimes google the code and get voltage wattage info.
My SC1 use’s number 19 bulbs which are capless available from jukebox revival in Holland there website lists lots of bulbs. It’s worth a look.
Cheers Scudie
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23 February 2019 at 14 h 35 min #45950
Scudie
ParticipantHad a thought about bulbs, all of the Seeburg manuals that I have, have a parts list which gives the ratings of all the bulbs. If you don’t have a manual I believe that there is a pdf of a Seeburg dec manual under the support section of the website.
Cheers Scudie
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